Dave (00:00): My name is Dave and this is my story. So I've been living in Cobargo for about 18 years, and it came down in 2003. So when the fires came through, we weren't expecting it at all. We knew the fires were out the back, we'd been watching the news. And they're out west in the forest. We weren't expecting them to get to Cobargo at all. Dave (00:26): So my daughter, Ruby, is 18, doing her Year 12. And thinking about her experience through the time, and what I noticed and what we spoke about was quite a brave face in that moment of when things were really, really needed. Get out of the house, really standing up for the task, I suppose. And just doing what was needed, showing quite a lot of leadership. And at the same time those moments of really dropping into vulnerability and kind of got quite stressed and traumatized from the experience. I just saw her holding just yet a huge amount of whatever it was, a huge amount of tension and stress and trauma in what's going on. So it was a bit of roller coaster for her, I think. Dave (01:17): Yeah, so I'm thinking about ways of offering pathways of support to Ruby. Definitely, one thing I think I would've done differently is to keep her more informed, talk to her more about what was going on. There was communication, but I got quite caught up in the whole fire thing and protecting property and keeping her informed of what was going on. Just checking in with her, where she was at. And making times to sit down, and actually have an opportunity for those little conversations, when everything was so busy and pretty crazy, especially in the thick of things. And she probably was left to her own devices, I think. We sought some support with headspace. That sort of counseling support through headspace for her was someone else besides her parents saying that this is a normal kind of reactions to be having, and a few strategies to find their way through. Dave (02:21): So advice that I might offer to parents that are going through something similar to this, would be just trying to provide those opportunities to have those conversations around thinking normal, connecting them into other people that like, other mentors, like headspace counselors or whoever that might be. Someone that the child could trust a little bit to find support in other areas as well. Keeping them included really, keeping them involved in what's going on.